The Way of
Wong Shun Leung
Sifu Clive Potter
Presents
the
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Introduction
Many people ask me why Wong’s way of Ving Tsun is so different than other Sifus. Essentially I can only apply
this question to the United Kingdom as that is where the question is asked and that is where I know the question
is true. For example one very noticeable difference is the way the Wong’s system turns. In many styles of Ving
Tsun in the U.K., when the practitioner turns he puts most if not all his weight on the back leg which of course
moves him away from the opponent. Wong system turns on the centre of gravity giving more control of the
opponent. Years ago when Anthony Kan and I were learning we were aware of this difference and wondered,
even though to us Wong’s way made more sense, that perhaps we were wrong as most styles of Ving Tsun in
the U.K. placed the weight on the back leg when they turned. Of course we stayed with what made most logical
sense. There are also many other ways that other different Ving Tsun schools have similarities that are different
from Wong’s thinking. Personally, I have viewed many, many ways of Ving Tsun over the years, but never have I
found a way that is as simple, as efficient and as direct as Wong’s. Indeed, if I had I would be there! Much Ving
Tsun in the U.K. is more rounded, defensive and prettier than Wong’s.
However, to find why Wong’s way is so renowned and different to other Ving Tsun we must look at the past. One
obvious pointer is the experience that Wong gained in what worked and what did not from all the real fights he
had when he was young. Another is the relationship he had with Yip Man which had a bearing on the knowledge
he gained. For this I would like to quote from an article by Dave Peterson and Enzo Verratti called “Ving Tsun by
Definition”. I hope they don’t mind me borrowing their words.
“It has been often suggested that Yip Man taught in a fairly unsystematic way, tending to pass on skills
according to the student’s size and reach. It is also said that he didn’t have much time for his slower, less
intelligent or less diligent students and actually taught few people the entire system in person. This in turn led to
many people learning by observing others training, rather than first-hand, and that quite a few actually learn
“second-hand” or even “third-hand” version of Ving Tsun filling the gaps in their knowledge with guesswork based
on what they could recall seeing others do, or even worse, making it up out of their own imagination! This, of
course gave rise to the variation in technique (and the interpretation of these techniques) extant today among
instructors of the same generation, not to mention those of their younger Ving Tsun brothers and sisters.
Of all of Yip Man’s students, Sifu Wong Shun Leung probably spent the longest time under his tutelage
because it was Sifu Wong who did most of the teaching in Yip Man’s school, whereas most of the other senior
students opened their own schools and went about doing things their own way. Wong was therefore, always
close to his teacher, could confer with his teacher and, observe his teacher, thereby picking up many of the
subtleties which his peers never did. Sifu Wong was also the one Yip Man student who always put everything he
had learned to the test, so he soon developed what can only be described as an intimate knowledge of the Ving
Tsun system. Becoming known throughout Hong Kong as “Gong Sau Wong”, or “King of Talking with the Hands”,
Sifu Wong took the Ving Tsun system to a whole new level and was never defeated in dozens of real life
encounters with practitioners of a myriad of martial styles.”
Certainly, when I was in Hong Kong last November 1999 for the “First World Ving Tsun Conference”, it was clear
from what was said on stage that Wong Shun Leung was highly respected by his peers. Dave Peterson also
gave a rousing speech as to how many Ving Tsun teachers have “lost the way” making their techniques pretty
and indirect. What amazes me is how it appeared that many people including Wong’s peers agreed with Dave
Peterson but I have never seen any evidence of anyone doing anything about it! This leads me nicely in to
quoting a little more from the same Dave Peterson and Enzo Verratti article:-
“What is more disturbing and frustrating is that many very intelligent people blindly continue to follow
such instructors, even when confronted by convincing arguments which clearly prove that what they are doing
does not conform to a logical approach. Instead, they take what is basically a simple straightforward method and
turn it into one that is complicated and less efficient. …………………. So many Ving Tsun practitioners invent
endless sequences of defensive actions when what is clearly the obvious message of the system is that ‘attack is
the best form of defence.’”
Dave Peterson’s message is one that I completely concur with. Wong once said to me if you want to develop
your Ving Tsun you must keep one formula in mind. Does the idea you wish to develop make it more simple,
more direct and more efficient?
Long live the way of Wong Shun Leung!
Clive Potter
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Index
Title Details Page
The Master Returns by Rusper Patel
Master Wong’s 1990 U.K. seminar
Featured in “Combat” magazine
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Positive Attitude in Ving Tsun by Clive Potter
Develop the right kind of approach in
fighting
Featured in “Combat” magazine
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The Ving Tsun Punch by Clive Potter
The science of punching correctly
Featured in “Combat” magazine
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The Wong Shun Leung Interview by Rusper Patel
Interview prior to Master
Wong’s 1993 U.K. Seminar
Featured in “Fighters” magazine
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“Beimo” by David Peterson
Wong Shun Leung’s approach to real
fighting
Featured in “Inside Kung Fu”
magazine
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Centerline Theory by Clive Potter
featured in “Combat” magazine
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Hong Kong - The Home of Modern Ving
Tsun
by Clive Potter
Clive Potter’s 1994 visit to Master
Wong’s school in Hong Kong
Featured in “Fighters” magazine.
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Sifu Wong - A Passion for Wing Chun by Daniel Poon
Report on 1995 Wong Shun Leung
Seminar
Featured in “Qi” magazine.
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Wong Shun Leung Seminar - 1995 by Clive Potter
Report on 1995 Wong Shun Leung
Seminar
Featured in “Combat” magazine.
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Wong Shun Leung -
The Early Years
Article from “Inside Kung Fu”
magazine
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Discussions with Master Wong Shun
Leung
and Master Tsui Sheung Tin
Article of a discussion that has been
documented and produced on the
Internet.
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The Death of a Legend A compilation of articles by David
Peterson to mark the passing away of
Master Wong
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In the memory of
Master Wong Shun Leung.
May his thoughts and teaching live on for ever.
Someone who is looking at Ving Tsun and has not spent enough time with a teacher, proberly
will not know enough footwork. He will not understand the mobility involved in Ving Tsun, the
angles of attack, the kicks in all situations. He will therefore want to add kicks for all situations.
He will therefore want to add something else to the style that he thinks is better for the sake of
not knowing.
(Wong Shun Leung)
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THE VING TSUN PUNCH
by
Clive Potter
One of the aspects that has made Ving Tsun famous, is its short range centreline punch. To produce power at
such a range, accuracy of technique is essential combined with the forward body movement used with the punch.
The punch has to do two jobs, hit the opponent and uproot his stance. The punch does not hit by using just the
fist and arm; it uses the whole body.
THE FIST
The hand, though closed into a fist, should not be clenched
tightly as this stiffens up the forearm and wrist and hampers
speed and flow of motion. Neither should the fist be
suddenly clenched tightly on impact, as this causes a split
second delay after impact to allow the fist to relax before
moving on. This makes punching jerky, reduces flow of
motion and strangles forward power. It is however, important
that the striking knuckles, the two lower knuckles, are in line with
and therefore supported by the elbow when hitting as in Fig. 1.
The fist always travels in a straight line from where it is to its
target. This is usually along the centreline and is aimed at the
opponent's centreline. (See Fig. 2). It is also important that the
attacker is "square on" to the opponents centreline when
executing the punch. (See also Fig.2).
When punching, extending the shoulders or over-turning the
waist will divert the forward power to a different direction causing
the attacker to be more vulnerable to being successfully blocked.
For continuous punching it is important that all forces are lined up
with the opponent's centreline. In Fig.3, student Mark Potter's back cocked fist is pointing in the wrong direction
therefore when it is used to punch its wrong cocked angle will cause a slight downward motion on contact with
the opponent, thus diverting some of the forward force in a
different direction. Fig. 4 shows the correct angle of the back
cocked fist. The direction of force is pointing towards the
opponents centreline, therefore on contact all force will be
directed forward. The fist itself when in the cocked position,
should be lined up with the two lower knuckles pointing at the
defendant's centreline. (See Fig. 5) On contact however, the
fist gives an upward twist directing the forward force at a slight
upward angle. This gives a small uprooting effect to the
opponent's stance and also gives the punch more penetration. (See Fig. 6). There are more details of techniques
for uprooting the opponent's stance later in this article.
Fig. 1
Fig. 2
Fig. 3 Fig. 4
Fig. 5
Fig. 6
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THE ELBOW
In Ving Tsun one of the basic rules in all actions is the awareness of the elbow and its specific distance from the
body which connects it and the arm to the body. The punch is no exception to this. When punching, awareness is
not in the fist but in the elbow; the elbow drives the fist forward. Correct POSITIONING and MOVEMENT of the
elbow is essential as part of the techniques to develop power and support the fist. In Figs. 7, 8, and 9, student
Rusper Patel shows the path of the elbow. In Fig`s. 7 and 8 the path of the elbow is wrong. In Fig 7 the elbow's
motion causes the direction of force to lift too greatly loosing the elbow’s distance connection with the body and
making it too easy to over-extend the arm. In Fig. 8 the elbow’s direction will cause a downward arc as the fist
makes contact. This therefore directs some of the forward force away from the target. In Fig. 9 the elbow’s
movement is correct, being directed forward at solar plexus level as long as possible until it has to rise to join the
line of the arm. This action will provide the maximum forward force angled slightly upwards forcing the opponent
off balance and therefore uprooting his stance. This will only be effective if the correct distance is kept when
contact is made with the target.
CONTACT DISTANCE
Contact distance must be correct to be able to deliver he punch with an uprooting effect. In Figs 10 and 11
student Rusper Patel punches student Robin Gillott . In Fig. 10 the contact distance is too far away causing
punch contact to be at the end of the
arm's reach. In Fig. 11 the contact
distance is correct. Notice the distance of
Rusper's elbow from his body on contact
which should be the distance of the little
fingers to thumb of his outstretched hand.
In this way the punch directs the force
through the opponent at a slight upward
angle forcing him off balance and
uprooting his stance. Fig. 12 shows how
all these techniques are combined with
the forward movement of the stance, thus
adding further power. Effectively the
punch is aimed right through to the back
of the opponent’s head. Fig. 13 shows two
different aspects. Of course with every
force there must be an equal and opposite
force. The arrows show that providing a
forward force in a slightly upward
direction, the equal and opposite force is
Fig. 7 Fig. 8 Fig. 9
Fig. 10
Fig. 11
Fig. 12
Fig. 13
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towards the ground thus
student Mark Potter a stable
anchorage when his fist hits
the target. Note that the
angle of the forearm on
impact is nearly the same
as the angle of the back leg.
The dotted line shows the
whole line of force
supporting the punch which
runs from the fist to the
ground provided the elbow
is of the correct distance
from the body to "connect"
this line.
An experiment can be
conducted to show how
uprooting force can work. In
Fig 14, "B" adopts a strong low stance. "A" attempts to push him back off stance. Note that his forward force is
parallel to the ground. The arrows show that there is nothing supporting the equal and opposite force. In this way
the stronger person will prevail. In Fig. 15, "A" applies his force in a slightly upward direction, and though he is
now pushing with one hand instead of two, he will have not too much problem in uprooting and pushing "B" back
off his stance. Note that the equal and opposite force for "A" is supported by the ground, but for "B" there is
nothing behind him
CONTINUOUS PUNCHING
Ving Tsun`s basic attacking technique is its continuous punching. In this technique each punch should target
precisely the same point. This accuracy is practised near the end of the Siu Lin Tau form when three or more
punches are executed. Each punch is focused on the same point as the previous one. Multiple punching onto the
same point together with moving forward in stance, serves two purposes which are most apparent when
attacking someone bigger and tougher then oneself. If the opponent can take he first punch without too much
damage, then the second hitting the same point will do a little more damage. The third, fourth, and so on hitting
the same point will eventually disable the opponent. Hitting repeatedly on the same point combined with forward
movement of the stance to upset the opponent's stance, prevents him from being able to retaliate, as he will be
occupied in retreating to try and keep his balance. In a "real" situation, once the first punch gets through, the
continuous punching and moving forward, if not blocked, should continue until the opponent fails down or is
disabled. In this way, the Ving Tsun punch becomes a formidable weapon, the returning fist drawing down and
opening up the defence of the opponent.
Fig. 14
Fig. 15
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WONG SHUN LEUNG
- THE EARLY YEARS
"Self-defence is only an illusion, a dark cloak beneath which
lurks a razor-sharp dagger waiting to be plunged into the
first unwary victim.
"Whoever declares that any weapon manufactured today,
whether it be a nuclear missile or a .33 special, is created
for self-defence should look a little more closely at his own
image in the mirror. Either he is a liar or is deceiving
himself.
"Wing Chun Kung Fu is a very sophisticated weapon;
nothing else. It is a science of combat, the intent of which is
the total incapacitation of an opponent. It is straightforward,
efficient and deadly. If you're looking to learn self-defence,
don't study wing chun. It would be better for you to master
the art of invisibility."
— Wong Shun Leung
Rather peculiar words, you might say, coming from an individual who'd spent over 30 years of his life teaching
kung fu; yet somehow there's a rather uncanny philosophical depth to the man who actually instructed Bruce Lee
in wing chun and inspired William Cheung to enter Yip Man's school at the age of 13. Wong Shun Leung, the
most senior phenomenon in wing chun today, earned his rank and title where it really counts - in the streets.
Now, at 48 years of age, he's still far from being a pacifist. With a series of jagged scars along his knuckles and a
piercing glare in his eyes, he gives the distinct impression that he's already witnessed a fair share of human folly
and its consequences. With the wisdom of a veteran, he guided us through a period in Hong Kong's recent past
where fame flew like the wind before a fist as wing chun became a household word.
Born in Hong Kong on 8 May 1935 the eldest son of a Cantonese traditionalist doctor, Wong Shun Leung grew
up in the hard world of broken bones, bruises, poultices, and amidst shelves of herbal medicines that had been
devised over thousands of years to remedy internal injuries of every kind. As a child he was exposed to fantastic
legends of almost superhuman men who controlled and used their bodies like fierce weapons and always against
innumerable odds. And because his father was well acquainted with the local kung fu community, Wong would
find himself encountering a fair cross section of Hong Kong's warrior elite and wondering just how powerful and
skilful they really were. His curiosity and interest in the martial arts, in fact, grew almost on a daily basis. By the
time he was eight years old, he could be found sitting in the dark corner of some local cinema watching the last
vestiges of silent kung fu movies. To add impact to Wong's already blossoming imagination, his grandfather just
happened to be a very close friend of Chan Wah Shan, the first of Yip Man's wing chun teachers. Both
grandfather and father would describe in detail Chan's martial prowess, especially in one particular incident when
Chan was already an old man, he publicly defeated a fierce young fighter in Fu Shan.
As fate would have it, Wong Shun Leung soon discovered his first and most favourite hobby, fighting. School
became somewhat a boring proposition for the young Wong, so he began frequenting various isolated locations
such as the tall apartment complex rooftops and secluded parking lots in Hong Kong, where extracurricular
activities could be carried out without interference from the police. Here most local vendettas, gang warfare and
personal grievances were settled with a sense of privacy. These duels were not without a sense of honour,
however, and Wong quickly learned the rule of etiquette involved, hit first, ask questions later. As his skills began
to improve, he developed relationships with a number of martial arts students who eventually convinced him to
study formally.
Between the ages of 15 and 16, Wong tried a number of kung fu styles and settled first on tai chi chuan, then
eventually on Western boxing. He liked boxing the most, because he considered it most practical for street
warfare. He found an instructor and began working out in a gym regularly.
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Unfortunately, a day came when Wong accidentally socked his coach a bit too hard in the face. The coach,
infuriated, proceeded to pound Wong into a pulp. Bleeding from both nose and mouth, he then managed to
corner his coach and knocked him out stone cold. From that day on there were no more boxing lessons, Wong
had lost respect for his teacher.
Wing Chun, at that time, was a relatively unknown style of kung fu and as
Yip Man was the only known teacher, Wong had never had an opportunity
to witness a real wing chun fighter. However one day his cousin
introduced him to Ao Yuing Ming, one of Yip's junior students. Ao was
about 30 to have a match with a sout